What does a lessern-known player or a manager/owner of a smaller Hearthstone team go through every day to build his name. Nydra and Chiv are joined by Hearthstone pro player Theude to discuss the Hearthstone "underground".

Being constantly in the highlights as a Hearthstone player is likely a good feeling but not everyone is leading this life. Outside the circle of big team brands, the Hearthstone scene is nonetheless vibrant, hosting a large population of players and team owners fighting for their 15 minutes of fame.

Days before one of the largest tournaments of the month, the ESL Legendary Series S2 finals, the Innervated's hosts Nydra and Chiv are joined by former Innovation captain Tim "Theude" Bergmann to talk about the struggles, challenges and daily schedule of the under-televised Hearthstone player.

At some point, Theude also derails the topic as he drops the "Kolento is overrated" bomb, which, to put it lightly, baffles the podcasting duo.

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